Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Wilkinsons

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was kept consensus to keep Pegasus1138Talk | Contribs | Email ---- 04:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

The Wilkinsons[edit]

technical nomination. this was speedied, and I expanded the article to show its notability. the template clearly does not prohibit those who did not create the article from removing the template. After editing the article and explaining my actions on the article's talk page, Ardenn challenged my edit and posted a {{db-band}} on the article. I don't want to get into some needless edit war, so I bring the article to the community for its input. I for one say keep. Agent 86 22:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Does not meet the criteria of WP:MUSIC. Non-notable. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Extremely strong delete for the love of God. Ardenn 22:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment. It says right at WP:MUSIC#Musicians_and_ensembles: "Has had a charted hit on any national music chart, in at least one large or medium-sized country". The article contains a verifiable statement to that very effect. I note above on the AfD discussion for Ability Online you say WP:WEB does not apply because it is not policy. Neither is WP:MUSIC. You can't have it both ways. Either a guideline provides criteria for inclusion or deletion or it does not. Agent 86 22:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Follow Up. WP:MUSIC also provides, "Has won a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno or Mercury Music Award." (Emphasis added.) This band has won one Juno (in addition to many other awards). In total, I'd say they meet at least 6 of the criteria. Agent 86 23:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep I'm surprised this one is problematic, even. As noted, they've had some decent success. "26 Cents" was a top ten country hit (and placed on the Billboard Hot 100 as well). "Fly (The Angel Song)" was a top twenty country hit that placed also on the Hot 100. "Jimmy's Got a Girlfriend" didn't make the Hot 100 but was still a top forty country hit. I'd say these three chart placings show reasonable notability, especially since if I had access to Canadian charts I'd probably be able to demonstrate comparable if not greater success there too. Also, the article also claims they have a reality show, which I suppose would add to notability. GassyGuy 23:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep won a major award, had a #3 charted hit, and we're still debating the deletability of this article? Kimchi.sg 02:42, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep I thank Agent86 for expanding this article. Another WP:MUSIC criterion that this article meets is that the band has released two albums under a major record label: both of their first two albums were released under the Warner Music Group startup label Giant Records. Ds093 05:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep They're on a major label, as evidenced by the slick production and saccharine songwriting ~ trialsanderrors 05:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Meets the notability criteria. 23skidoo 14:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Extremely strong KEEP for the love of God. On a major label, have won a major award, and have charted. This is a no-brainer. --Skeezix1000 17:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. I don't like it when people quote essays and guidelines without, apparently, reading them. In this case, this group meets every single reasonable standard for inclusion on Wikipedia. Captainktainer * Talk 19:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • A band that's signed to a major label, has had chart hits, and has been a winner of several major music awards? Keep, no contest. I'd love to know how exactly Ardenn figures that this fails WP:MUSIC. Bearcat 04:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - This is stupid to even debate. --SharpkjKevin Sharp 16:22, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as per others. --Merovingian (T, C, @) 16:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as per precedent Dl2000 01:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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