Talk:Lyta Alexander
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Lyta killed[edit]
Presumably Lyta being killed takes place in a novel but the article does not say which. Could someone be kind enough to let us know which one it is.--The Shadow Treasurer 05:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
In chapter 14 of the book "Final Reckoning : The Fate of Bester" by J. Gregory Keyes the character Garibaldi thinks "Good old scary-as-hell-there-at-the-end Lyta. Her death was another thing he owed Bester for."
Since neither the death nor the body has been shown Lyta may be dead or in hiding. If the Vorlons created super-Lyta by cloning her, there may also be other clones around. Andrew Swallow 13:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
In-universe style[edit]
I added some episode links in order to (hopefully) make the article seem less in-universe. I'll continue to work on this article when I have more time and can rewatch some of the episodes again for more references. -- Amber Vietzke (talk) 01:01, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Okay. I pulled the in-universe tag out of the article. I feel that it now has plenty of sources and enough information about the character's development outside the series to provide a real-world perspective. If you disagree, please provide suggestions to improve the article. -- Amber Vietzke (talk) 18:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Reason for Ms. Tallman's departure after the pilot[edit]
Could someone add a citation for the sentence stating that Patricia Tallman didn't come back for the first season because of a salary dispute? What I'm finding on JMSNews indicates some managerial issues and difficulties with Warner Bros., but nothing specific about her salary. Unless I'm totally missing something.
She did have a salary dispute when she was asked to appear in an episode of Crusade, so I'm not sure if this is what is being referred to. -- Amber Vietzke (talk) 17:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I suspect that money was the excuse to get rid of Pat Tallman. JMS wanted Pat Tallman but someone else wanted a blond girl character. JMS was away during Ms Tallman's contract negotiations. According to the scrip books the lady telepath role in "Midnight on the Firing Line" is Lyta but was played by Talia. Andrew Swallow (talk) 04:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- That might be true, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was. It would be nice to have a source for that statement in the article, however. Amber Vietzke (talk) 20:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I believe I heard somewhere, perhaps in the DVD commentary for the "Gathering" pilot, that the reason Pat Tallman did not return for the series is because she was pregnant (or had just given birth) and wasn't ready to return to work yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.237.240.102 (talk) 00:32, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Mm. I'll have to listen to my DVD commentary again, but I hadn't heard that before. Was always under the impression that the issues with WB as linked above were the primary concern. -- Amber Vietzke (talk) 06:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
The Nautilus Coil[edit]
It says in this entry, Lyta wasn't mentioned in any of the post-series canonical works... does that mean "The Nautilus Coil" short story by Gregory Keyes (the Psi Corp Trilogy Author), published in the 24th issue of the B5 Magazine was non-canonical or was it merely overlooked? MayonnaiseJane (talk) 21:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Do we have any sources on what JMS has said (if anything) about the canonicity of what's published in the B5 magazine? That would certainly be a factor. One would assume it's canon, but YNK. -- Amber Vietzke (talk) 05:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- There was a "Lyta and G'Kar" story in an issue of "Amazing Stories" during that magazine's short rebirth in 1999. I cannot for the life of me remember the name of the story, but I think jms wrote it himself. 65.42.26.190 (talk) 19:11, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- You are thinking of "Genius Loci", by J. Michael Straczynski (Winter 2000, Amazing Stories Magazine)
- Lyta also appeared in "Hidden Agendas", by J. Michael Straczynski (May 2000, The Official Babylon 5 Magazine)
- Andrew Swallow (talk) 23:56, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Possible influence on Joss Whedon?[edit]
Anyone have any citation anywhere that Lyta may have influenced the development of Willow Rosenburg in Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
I mean... come on.. uber powerful Psi, cute redhead, if her role was originally one and the same as Talia's then add in the Bisexual aspect and...
Eyes go all black when uber-psi-ed up...
And then there's that thing Byron called her a lot...
It's OR without any citation, but if there is any instance anywhere where someone on the Buffy team said something about this, then it's not OR anymore and thus the obvious can be stated.208.54.15.46 (talk) 00:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- As for "eyes going all black," remember that Optic Nerve studios did the special effects makeup for both Buffy and B5. The monster in the Buffy episode "Gingerbread" has G'Kar's chest. Schoop (talk) 19:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Last appearance[edit]
Lyta's last appearance was changed to Thirdspace by another editor; however, Thirdspace takes place during Season Four, so chronologically, her last appearance is in fact "Objects in Motion." I'm going to go ahead and change it back.
... regardless of chronology (which is what we're going by for last appearances, right?), I'm fairly certain Thirdspace came out before the end of Season Five anyway. Please correct me if I'm wrong. -- Amber Vietzke (talk) 05:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thirdspace was made between the 4th and 5th Season, so all the 5th Season episodes follow it. (Thirdspace is the last episode filmed containing Susan Ivanova but that is a different actress.) Andrew Swallow (talk) 23:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Deaf?[edit]
It is stated in the Babylon 5 Book #4 Clark's Law, Chapter 9 that she is deaf: "Deaf from early childhood, she only knew the inner voices. The mind talk. Deaf, she could hear better than anyone alive."
Assuming this is the case (I haven't read the book in question), wouldn't this contradict show canon? It's fairly obvious that Lyta isn't deaf on the show. On the other hand, I know some of the novels are considered canonical by JMS, and I'm not sure which this is.
Removing this line for now; it can be added back in later if its canonicity can be proven. Assuming anyone watches this page anymore. Amber (talk + contribs) 03:20, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- She could have conceivably been deaf on the show. The idea behind it was that being a telepath made it such that her deafness didn't matter. That being said, of the stand-alone novels only books 7 & 9 are considered canon and the deafness is never mentioned anywhere else so it is probably best left out. AeonsAblaze (talk) 07:38, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Telepaths look straight at the head to see the brain not the lips. Lyta was scanning for lies. Andrew Swallow (talk) 21:03, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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