Talk:List of Cluedo characters
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Vandalization & Errors[edit]
I've attempted to clean up this page and regain some fact to an otherwise highly subjective wiki. Someone in past has taken to troll the page by putting incorrect first names for several of the characters, as well, plagiarized a bio for Dr. Black/Mr. Boddy that had been written by me some time ago for a fan-made game I created. Attempts on my part to correct the errors has only led to the page reinstated to the troll's version. How did their changes even get sanctioned by moderators and left up for so long? Why are my attempts to fix this getting rebuffed? Do the moderators of this wiki even want this article to reflect accurate information at all? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gothicgreenhouse (talk • contribs) 15:41, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Article Confusion[edit]
This is EXCEPTIONALLY confusing. Not only is it worded badly and contradicts itself, it speaks in the first person, never distinguishes its sources and is all around a bad piece of work. Perhaps each character's representation could be split up, one description of their movie representation, one from board game 'cannon', etc? I'm not entirely sure how to go about this, though the article's current state simply won't do.
Anyone else interested in helping with this? --Alex 18:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it's really exceptionally poor. Unfortunately, I've never read the books, seen the movie, or even played the game, so I can't help. I found some duplicate material at Clue (book series) and added merge tags. It should not be merged until after the AfD is over, though.--Srleffler 02:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've seen the movie and played the game, but never read the books. I'm afraid that, if what little I gather from this article is correct, the differences between character versions may be so unreconcileable as to make a single article encompassing all of them impossible. Perhaps the most frustrating thing is that I can't decide if it truely needs an article in the first place, seeing as the characters don't seem to be the same from version to version. --Alex 12:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Merging the book series character decriptions would only make things more confusing, I think. I've read the books, seen the films, TV series, etc. Though because of that I can understand the article, I agree it needs a bit of re-editing. Even then, each season of the TV series, the character backstories changed, which adds even more trouble for whomever edits it. Chasektn 05:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I tried to clean up the sections and my edits were marked as vandalism, although personally, I think they were anything but. caw292 10:43, 07 November 2007 (UTC)
Mr. Green redirect[edit]
I don't want to mess with a redirect page, but the page redirects here. It would be preferable to have a disambiguation page listing other uses of "Mr. Green" (for example, SoBe's now-discontinued ginseng soda, which used to have its own article, I think). I know that Clue's use of the name is the "original" and probably most recognizable, but it needs to coexist with other uses as well. Edwin Herdman (talk) 02:45, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Original Research[edit]
The article is, basically, a summary and intepretation of primary sources -- novels, games and scenarios. This violates our policy against original research. For example, the section on Colonel Mustard concludes that he is the stock character of a "Great White Hunter," and that on Miss Scarlet calls her a "Femme Fatale." This is classic original research: we can only verify the conclusion by using our own knowledge of stock characters and their use in literature. We should, by policy, be able to look it up in a reliable secondary source. Not only are such sources not cited, I doubt their existence. Robert A.West (Talk) 02:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Miss Scarlett[edit]
To whomever continues to change the section heading of "Scarlett" to "Scarlet" – the character is well sourced to have been created by an English citizen and first published in the U.K. and the U.S. as "Miss Scarlett". The character further did not change in North America to "Miss Scarlet" until 1963, yet continues to be known as "Miss Scarlett" in the U.K., which is also the country of origin. As the English edition of Wiki observes the National varieties of English, the originating country's spelling takes precedent. Kasandra Scarlet from the Reinvention game Discover The Secrets is a derivative of the name Miss Scarlett, not a replacement. Therefore, there is again no substantiated precedent to change the name as a result of this most recent edition. Miss Scarlett's name is correctly spelled "Scarlet" in North American versions and spinoffs and "Miss Scarlett" in the U.K. and most of the rest of the world. In an article which discusses distinct North American and UK versions, it will be common to have disparate spellings within the article. If you have a differing opinion with citable documentation, please discuss any changes here prior to continuing to make unsubstantiated editorial changes based on little more than personal national bias.--Closettrekker (talk) 06:38, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Miss Scarlett Re.[edit]
As the main editor who cleaned up the entire article from a hodge-podge of of paragraphs into an organized structure, I felt that Scarlet is just as acceptable, and it while it doesn't matter which form is used, just as long Scarlet is Scarlet, and Scarlett is Scarlet. I don't live in the States, it just seemed that Scarlet reflected the colour better.
Anyway, you do have a point that as Scarlett was the original English spelling, it does have some presidency, so I will let it be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.106.197 (talk) 19:22, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Peacock & White[edit]
To the bozo who took down the Mrs. White and Mrs. Peacock pictures, screw off. I worked hard to make this page as good as it is, and now you just making an inconvinence. I'm going to remove the text I wrote for this page until you lay off it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matty Chaperoni (talk • contribs) 04:36, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
One possible source[edit]
A lot of the background information on the characters can be found in the "Clue:Master Detective" box set, which includes characters' first names, as well as background information. It also includes foreign names for the various characters. (You may be interested to know the Dr. Black is known as Mr. Boddy in the USA's English edition... and Senor Caddaver in the USA Spanish edition!) 98.71.147.54 (talk) 23:32, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Notability[edit]
Removed the Notability Tag as the Cluedo characters are not only iconic worldwide, but also the subject of numerous Film, TV, Musical, Theatrical, Novels, and other legitimate productions and publications, not just board games. Certainly this is just as acceptable as the voluminous List of Star Wars characters, or extensive Monopoly (game)#Games by locale or theme. Indeed, listing the Cluedo characters both delineates the notable historical editions, just as the Monopoly lists do, as well as indicating the characters roles in various productions/editions, much like the Star Wars lists do. While there may be some merit to the other tags, notability is not one of them.Closettrekker (talk) 05:43, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
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