Talk:Signal passed at danger

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Wootton Bassett[edit]

I previously added the 2015 Wootton Bassett SPAD incident to this list, but it was removed by Op47. Given recent developments (prosecution of driver and TOC), I'm now raising the question of whether or not this incident should be included in the list. Mjroots (talk) 15:48, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

The list is of accidents, not near-miss incidents, so the Wootton Bassett incident doesn't belong in that existing list. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:57, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
My position has not changed. This is a list of accidents. As I understand it, there are hundreds of SPADs every year. We need to draw the line somewhere. An accident actually occured seems to be the line here and it is a clear bright line. Op47 (talk) 12:11, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

We've gone international[edit]

This article originally described what a SPAD is - an acronym unique to the UK. However the expression signal passed at danger is used by many countries, and so understandably international information has been added here - which is great. This has become mixed up with the UK details and created ambiguity, so I propose widening the general information and moving the SPAD specific information to a dedicated section on the page. Dr Sludge (talk) 19:04, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Midsomer Norton accident 1876[edit]

In the Midsomer Norton accident of 1876 there were no starting signals to SPAD across, nor was there any token working, only "Absolute Block".

With two trains crossing, the signaller gave the right of way to the guard on one train, "Righto Jack", not realising that both guards were named "Jack". Both trains departed, one unsafely.

The safeworking rules apparently failed to consider the case of two guards with the same name.

The resulting headon collision saw 17 people killed. Tabletop (talk) 13:26, 8 September 2016 (UTC)