Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pearl (American Singer)

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The result was delete. Grand master ka 19:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pearl (American Singer)[edit]

Of her work, an out-of-print CD, Love Trip, was released by a San Francisco independent label (Ten-Six Records) in 2001 and is the only commercial recording of her found thus far. Also worth noting, a song "Twilight" (which seems only to have been released on white label vinyl) charted in the Top 40 of national club play in late 2005.. Sure doesn't make many claims to notability. User:Zoe|^(talk) 02:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep from your own admission notable per WP:Music due to chart rating. -- Librarianofages 02:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment That's a quote from the article, not the nominator's admission. ~ trialsanderrors 02:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have strong doubts that an artist who had a charting record in 2005 has her 2001 album deleted already. Also, it says club charts. Delete unless verified/notability established. ~ trialsanderrors 02:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Perhaps we have different ideas of what club charts are, I understand it to mean the charts for dance music as a whole. -- Librarianofages 03:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I understand it to mean somebody's (whose?) tally of what DJ's are playing in clubs. Per Billboard Magazine, this artist never charted in record sales. Fan-1967 03:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Her webpage says "DJ Times magazine". Is that anything noteworthy? I added a sources tag. ~ trialsanderrors 03:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I initiated article after realizing there were very few places to find her. I work in music publishing and have run across her recordings many times. She is listed in All Music Guide, is a registered member of Broadcast Music Incorporated and the cd mentioned was released on a notable hip-hop label owned by Richie Rich (rapper), and he guest appears on her album's single. Completely understand if this does not warrrant inclusion, though I felt it did. --BandHistorian 03:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If you read the standards at WP:MUSIC, it looks like she does not quite make it. Only one album, which did not chart, puts her close but not quite there yet. (If you work in music you know that basically everyone above a garage band is registered with BMI, so that doesn't count for much.) Fan-1967 04:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- [Edit conflict] Well the issue is more that we can't tell from the only source (her webpage). There is a music guideline at WP:MUSIC which gives you an idea which kinds of artists get included, but really the key is to find reliable sources that cover her career. So if DJ Times has a write-up on her and it's mentioned in the article, that can sway the vote. ~ trialsanderrors 04:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete doesn't appear to be notable. There aren't any claims in the article or this debate that suggest sufficient notability but I'd be happy to be corrected if verified notability emerges. MLA 08:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete as per MLA's comments. Doesn't seem notale yet, but if the author could provide verifiable sources on the charted Top 40 Hit or any mention of the artist in "multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media," that'd be different. Scorpiondollprincess 13:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per lack of reliable sources and looks like original research at this point. Wickethewok 13:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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